What must they have been thinking on this day, a wee bit over two years ago? And what led them from dinner to murder in thirteeen days? Based on the facts we know (and thanks to PC, we actually know a LOT), I'm going to try to answer those questions - day by day - over the next ten days. So, join me now as we crawl into the minds of Harlow and Joe, nearly two years ago...
First though, to understand their likely frame of mind on this night, we need to briefly look at how they ended up here at this porn convention in Vegas at this particular fancy restaurant on the 11th.
In a nutshell, the reason was money. Harlow and Joe needed money, and they needed it badly. This is a stone cold fact, and it cannot be overemphasized.
For those unfamiliar with Harlow and Joe's now well documented pre-murder financial crisis, click here. I wrote this a year ago, and since then there's only one thing I'd add: It's very probable (IMO) that Harlow and Joe's primary home loan was (or I should say is) one of these currently infamous "subprime" mortgages.
Here's a quote from a bestseller I'm currently reading (Niall Ferguson's The Ascent of Money:
"'Subprime' mortgage loans are aimed by local brokers at families or neighborhoods with poor or patchy credit histories...Both italics are mine. First italic point, when your main source of income is a felonious activity in your state...it's fair to assume your bank would look upon your creditworthiness, at best, as "patchy."
...And most had introductory 'teaser' periods, whereby the initial interest payments - usually for the first two years - were kept artificially low, back-loading the cost of the loan....[causing] a huge upward leap in interest payments in the third year of the loan."
Second italic point, Harlow and Joe bought their home in December of 2005. Yep. Assuming this was your typical "subprime" mortgage, Harlow and Joe would have been feeing the extreme financial pain of their new drastically higher payments in (da DUM!)...January of 2007. Hm, yepsters, WHAT a coincidence.
You combine that with disappointing revenues from their lacklusterly reviewed "Boybatter" new porn site endeavor, and you begin to feel the degree of financial desperation Harlow and Joe must have been in two years ago. So, when Brent Corrigan casually suggested they finally meet at the big porn trade show out in Vegas that month, you can bet Harlow and Joe jumped at the chance. As Harlow admits in the Roecker interview, he saw it as a juicy "carrot" to good to pass up.
Harlow also admitted (in a now deleted blog post) checking out and running the Alexa numbers on Brent Corrigan's web site early on, and thus they knew of the huge and rabidly loyal online fan base Brent possessed. "Online" is the key word to keep in mind here. Harlow and Joe needed more income NOW, not later, so when they spoke to their roommates (such as Justin Hensley) of making a small fortune off of Brent, I don't think they were thinking so much in terms of DVD sales (which would take a while to produce and distribute and finally reap profits from) but in online Boybatter subscriptions, the electronic dollars from which they could collect almost immediately.
So, you can see what their object is at this dinner meeting. They HAVE to get Brent onto Boybatter. They NEED the online subscription surge a demonstrable porn megastar like Brent will bring to their relatively obscure porn site. They can't just settle for Brent and Grant's original proposal, which was for Harlow to simply shoot a scene for Brent Corrigan Online (and collect merely a standard scene fee). They HAD to be profit participants. They gotta pay those bills and mortgages, and they need to pay them NOW.
So, they tap the last of their available credit on the few cards they can still draw from, and they fly out to Vegas...at their own expense. They pick prectically the most expensive restaurant in Vegas in a Hail Mary attempt to impress Sean and Grant; to convince them, I suppose, that Boybatter was "bigleague." Joe's $6000 Bernini rabbitskin faux-chinchilla coat (now the namesake of a erudite blog) perhaps was bought with the same purpose? Anyways, it is clear from all this that Harlow and Joe were the supplicant party going into this meeting. And like good negotiators, they were doing the best they could to obscure this desperation from Sean and Grant.
Unfortunately for Harlow and Joe, Sean and Grant were not fooled. In fact, Brent shared his insights about the deal to Jody Wheeler in "either an IM chat or a phone call" BEFORE the murder, stating that "a company out of Norfolk, Virginia wanted to pay him a huge some of money to star in their movies" and that he was "skeptical." The "kind of money the outfit was offering was pretty much unheard of. Too good to be true."
I believe what happened at the dinner was, Sean and Grant politely listened to Harlow and Joe's drunken sales pitch (complete with breaking glassware), nodded their heads a lot...and then more or less gave Harlow and Joe the brush off. And they used the current settlement talks with Bryan as a convenient brushing excuse (ie, "...well, sounds good, but we have to wrap up this lawsuit thing, so, maybe sometime, ok? We'll call you later. And thanks for dinner!").
They then posed for a quick photo-op with a stumbling bird-flipping Harlow outside the restaurant (yeah, LOL, THAT made a good final impression I'm sure...you can pretty much tell by the look on Brent's face here how greatly he would prefer to be elsewhere), and that was that. As they left the Bellagio parking lot, Sean and Grant were probably secretly hoping to never hear from those two clowns again.
Unfortuntely for them (and others), 'twas not to be.
Because getting back to what Harlow and Joe were probably thinking at this point...they clearly missed the brush-off signal. Whether it was the excessive alcohol consumption, or the desperate wishful thinking brought on by their financial crisis, or a combination of both...they came away with a far more rosy impression of where their proposed "deal" stood (as will become apparant in a couple of days).
And that wraps this day up.
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Oh, what's this? I'm forgetting something, you say? Hmmm, what could I possibly be forgetting?
Oh, that. Oh yeah, someone said something, or other. About our neighbor to the north, IIRC. Hmmm yes that.
Hm. Well you know, I've actually been doing some re-musing about THAT. Which may raise an eyebrow or two, but here goes:
Recall that the whole point of this exercise is to try to put ourselves in Harlow and Joe's shoes over these next few days. So lets try and look at this from their angle...and see if maybe, just maybe, there is another more likely explanation for this that we have never considered before.
Now, we know that Joe made some comment at this dinner about "sending" Bryan elsewhere. And we know Grant said no, no thanks! And we know Grant thought the whole thing a joke at the time. And we know Grant duly reported it to the police after the murder, in which joke essentially became a reality. We know all these things from the various court filings, especially the CCTs (in which Joe basically affirms Grant's description of this offhand remark to a tee).
The way I see it, there are actually two possibilities here: 1) Joe was floating a serious murder proposal "trial balloon" at this moment to Sean and Grant; or 2) Joe was indeed merely joking. OK. Lets take a good HARD look at the first explanation, ie, the one virtually everyone up to this point has (perhaps lazily) been assuming to be the case.
Now, pretend you want to make a SERIOUS proposal to someone (who you barely even know) to murder someone else (who you know, at best, only by reputation). When and where and HOW would you choose to make such an incredible proposition?
Would you do it while everyone is sober and thinking seriously? Or would you wait until everyone is so drunk they can barely understand what you're trying to say (Brent: "He'll just come back.")?
Would you do it in a unpopulated place, unlikely to be overheard? Or would you do it in a place where you are surrounded by nearby diners, attentive waiters, hovering busboys refilling your water glass, etc.?
Would you do it in a secluded place, unlikely to be seen? Or would you do it in a Vegas hotel-casino, where a ZILLION cameras are trained at you, watching your every move?
In other words, is there a STUPIDER time place and manner to propose murder than like this? At Le Cirque?? After several rounds of drinks???
If I were Joe, and I really wanted to float such a shocking trial balloon...GOOD GAWD there MUST have been better opportunities that weekend to do so. I mean granted, Joe is not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, but c'mon, he must have realized no one would take such a suggestion seriously, delivered in the time, place and manner this one supposedly was. Thus I find myself no longer believing in the first possibility above.
In other words, not only did Grant have good reason to believe Joe was joking, GRANT WAS RIGHT. Joe WAS indeed merely joking. On that day, at that time, anyways. Thus I no longer believe murder was hatched on (or before) this day, as we've all too rashly assumed. No, the actual murder plan did not arise for several more days, I think. And we have paid FAR too much attention to this lamb dinner (and this Canada comment) than it actually deserves.
The Vegas dinner on the 11th was but a interesting prelude IMO, nothing more. Days more monumental lie ahead.
18 comments:
10 was the better title ;)
Yeah. :-)
Jim with the financial evidence that you have on Joe and Harlow in hand you point out that they killed Bryan to get out of debt on their mortgage.
What is funny is that Sean and Grant were also in serious financial straits at the same time. Sean and Grant's problems could be directly attributed to Bryan.
Joe and Harlow are said to have killed Bryan so that they could work with Brent Corrigan, Cobra's golden goose.
A deal you would say they beleived would net them some serious cash and help them get out of debt.
What is funny is that it was a stupid idea to kill Bryan to work with Brent. I has never made any sense to me and I doubt that there would be a big financial gain for any of the parties involved.
What I also find interesting is that you are under the impression that Joe and Harlow had a subprime loan on their home. I am not aware of this fact but I will say that Harlow flipped 3 homes prior to the purchase of the home on Stratem Court. He made a nice profit on all of them. So they had a nice down payment for that house.
Also property records show that Joe and Harlow had title to the homes at 1028 and 1032 Stratem Court.
Joe also homsteaded some land in Virgina and sold it to a developer and then bought back a lot and subdivided that lot.
Those lots are 1028 and 1032 Stratem Court. The only lot that had a mortgage was 1028, 1032 was free and clear as far as the property records show. Also both of those properties were put in a trust. That could explain why Virginia Beach could not seize the homes. Do the research I did.
"What is funny is that Sean and Grant were also in serious financial straits at the same time. Sean and Grant's problems could be directly attributed to Bryan.
S&G's "problems" were totally different. At the time, they were really more legal than finanacial.
Brent needed money to keep his lawyer in the game. Take away money, Brent loses merely a lawyer. Thats it.
Harlow and Joe were on the verge of losing EVERYTHING. You see? Huge difference.
Also, Brent and Grant were, at the time, on the verge of solving all their legal bill woes with the settlement. Once that was done and they had free use of the BC trademark, their worries were over. In fact, excepting a little hiccup concerning Lee, that is precisely what has happened, historically: Brent has gone from worrying about brake fluid, to worrying about what exotic locale to shoot his next video, and buying saddles for his horse.
So saying Brent and Grant were in "financial straits" similar to Harlow and Joe, no, you're basically wrong.
"I has never made any sense to me and I doubt that there would be a big financial gain for any of the parties involved."
As you can see from "The Email" above Elm, Joe had a different opinion. And Harlow is on record to blabbing to Roecker about how good that "carrot" looked. And at the end of the day, Joe and Harlow's opinions of the financial prospects are really the only ones that matter. Anyone's elses - yours, mine - are basically irrelevant.
As to questions of other housing and homesteads on "1032" Stratum Ct, I'll defer to PC to answer those issues raised if he so chooses. I will say this is the first I've heard of 1032. If you have had all this reseach, why haven't you posted it on your blog?
" I am not aware of this fact but I will say that Harlow flipped 3 homes prior to the purchase of the home on Stratem Court."
That's incorrect... and so is this statement:
"Those lots are 1028 and 1032 Stratem Court. The only lot that had a mortgage was 1028, 1032 was free and clear as far as the property records show."
I'll be happy to provide copies of the land records to prove you're wrong (again) Elm.
Maybe 1032 Stratum Court was the "super shower." It was so big I guess, Joe subdivided the property and gave the shower it's own mailing address. And then homesteaded it. :-)
From the Out article:
"The in-call room, Fred says, “had a hot tub, leather sofa, mahogany lockers for their clients, and a huge mosaic tiled shower with jets coming from every different direction.”
Rosalie, a gentle, steady woman, says, “It was a super-duper shower. You could put 10 people in there.”"
So yeah, I could see the shower getting it's own mailbox too. :-)
A simple search at VBlandRecords will show that Elm is incorrect.
Guess I know what my next post will be about.
While reading this post my mind kept fast-forwarding to the CCT's and the moment when Grant breaks the news to H & J that Bryan's death didn't clear the way for a "partnership." They got hit with a double whammy of realizing they committed a capitol offense for nothing, and that their last slim hope at avoiding financial ruin had vanished. It's actually a little heartbreaking when you think about it.
Yeah, reading the transcripts, their shock at the news was obvious.
Damn, it's "capital" offense. I always get them confused
PC, I checked the land records and they show just what I have said.
Jim:
As far as Sean and Grant's only problem was legal that is wrong as well becuase Bryan and Lee had a backdoor deal that would have made Bryan the principal share holder in LSG. So that does not really say that Sean and Grant's problems would have been solved by the settlement.
Bryan would have had all of the rights to the video filmed by LSG and he would have been the principle share holder and he could do with that video what he wanted. IE use it for Cobra Video which in effect was his plan all along.
He would have had Sean bound up in legal problems for years with the settlement and Sean would have been screwed.
Now what is really interesting is when did Sean and Grant find out about the backdoor deal? that is the lynch pin in all of this.
Oh and as for me not posting it on my blog it really does not matter now does it.
Joe has plead guilty and Harlow will be convicted of first degree murder.
This case really is over as far as I am concerned. Sean has his comapny and he is finnally makeing some money, Grant can now really call himself a producer. Joe and Harlow did not get what they wanted and bryan is dead everybody is happy right?
"Now what is really interesting is when did Sean and Grant find out about the backdoor deal? that is the lynch pin in all of this"
You are correct Elm, this is the lynchpin question. But fortunately for us all, we know the answer with certainty: April 28, 2007.
Since this date was well after the murder, the issue becomes rather a moot point as to S&G. Since they are unaware of the financial peril of the "backdoor deal" before the murder, then it essentially plays no role in the murder.
What IS significant is that we can pinpoint the exact date Harlow became aware of the "backdoor deal:" January 24, 2007.
Matter of fact, we can even pinpoint the time of day on the 24th Harlow found out about it, to within an hour.
jim revisits ..."a quick photo-op with a stumbling bird-flipping Harlow outside the restaurant (yeah, LOL, THAT made a good final impression I'm sure..."
I have always wondered what was going through Harlow's mind when he gets his picture taken while flipping a bird? There are at least two other photos like this one.
It screams of arrogance, and a delusions of grandeur like I can't remember seeing before in a photo. Like he is atop a pretty big high horse. The kind of high horse that tips and crashes when it gets rocked just a little too hard, knocking the rider to a hard concrete floor face first.
Harlow's horse was set up very high at the exact moment that this picture was taken. It really is a cautionary tale here. :(
"elmysterio said...
PC, I checked the land records and they show just what I have said."
I'm afraid they don't... look for a post shortly... currently busy with a few other things.
You may be right about it being just a joke but I think there is something to be said for the idea that what is said in jest is what maybe a true desire. Tone, inflection and body language may have said jest (under alcohols influence), but there is still a possibility that the initial idea of murder was sparked at this meeting.
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