Tuesday, February 12, 2008

The 385

If today's big Kocisphere story was made into a movie...this is what the poster would look like:



Update: LOL, of course, right after I declare this the big story of the day, an even bigger story comes along...

Update 2: ...which gets even bigger!

Update 3: And now this bombshell.

36 comments:

jim said...

Ooooh a minor milestone: This was my 50th post! Woohoo!

Rob said...

Jim--

Congratulations on making 50--50, Five O like the Hawaiian state police. Aren't you devilishly sauve and debonair.

Like the graphic. After all a picture is the equivalent of a 1000words.

Work has only just begun as we await more pithy commentary from your shrewd, cunning mind to your keyboard and our screens.

Warmest regards on reaching your
50th post,

Rob

Anonymous said...

Congratulations jim!

Rob said...

Jim--

Just out of curiosity, would the Demetrius Fannick affair be broken plate number 4 out of all of the plates put into motion?

jim said...

Rob, my mind is literally a whirl right now...IMO, this Fannick thing is just the tip of the iceberg.

Fannick meets with Joe EIGHT FRIGGIN TIMES between Oct and Jan.

Then Fannick decides to rep Harlow. Says Joe will waive any conflict...which, would work! You CAN waive a potential conflict, however...

Today, the prosecution motions to remove Fannick for conflict. Unlike what some uninformed legal pundits out there are saying, the prosecution DOES have standing to make such a motion; they have an interest in getting a verdict that won't be reversed on appeal.

Anyways, back to this conflict motion. Well, did not Joe waive the conflict? Then, what's the problem?

Well obviously, there is a problem, because, da DUM! We have this motion...for some reason, that waiver is not gonna do...why?

IMO there is only one possible explanation: Joe is as crazy as a loon.

Or, at least is putting up a fairly convincing act of being crazy as a loon, in preparation for an insanity defense.

A mentally impaired person can't give a waiver. THIS MUST BE THE PROBLEM.

And you know what folks? I'm only down to the waterline of this iceberg now! Once we establish Joe's gonna plead insanity...a whole lot of interesting things follow from this...more on this later, as my whirling thoughts organize...

jim said...

Well, one thing that will almost certainly follow from this: Kent Barclay will steal this analysis, and claim it for his own. Most likely put it up on his crap site today, I would guess. Oh well, this is unavoidable...

Thoughts continuing to whirl...

Anonymous said...

This case is going to go on for years isn't it?

Rob said...

Well Jim there is trouble in the land of Quaker Oats and Penn's Wood. The short of it is Joe Kerekes is leaving the love of his life, his partner in sweat and muscle building, his love bunny, and buddy in grifting marks, and pulling tricks to his own devices. Mozart's fugue in the background--THE HORROR, THE DISGRACE. Harlow, the innocent lambkin, to face stern justice all alone as well as that PA State Executioner while Joe spends his days searching for those missing bricks his load is shy of. Would that be about right?

Rob said...

Well, VJ that is not so bad. We all need a good laugh and this tragedy is loaded with laughs and tinged with the elements of mystery. A bit of something for everyone.

DeWayne In San Diego said...

Mornin Jim Congratulations on 50 posts and your fine Blog!

Jim,VJ

1.Joe has had a plan for insanity since the arrest if not before!

2.Yes VJ I doubt a trial will start now before summer and with appeals this case will not be over for years!

3.Jim haven't you heard the news?
Nicolay Petrov was in collusion with Joe and Harlow he was the "third man" who killed Bryan although Kentie now believes Bryan was not killed but the homeless dude Bryan and Robert invited to the house to "meet Harlow"

According to Kent Bryan is still alive (what he is doing is anyones guess)

Please lets get Kentie to Luzerne so he can interview Joe they were made for each other!

Rob said...

Dewayne--

Kent needs to return to that Sanitorium in the Benelux countries. If he could take Joe Kerekes, perhaps a discount for a 2 for 1 occupancy. 2 whack jobs for the price of 1.

jim said...

Yeah, everything we know about Joe: Pastor Ron, hitting a drill instructor, the mark@boisrus fantasies, his well-known megalomania, running up titanic debt on Harlow's credit, the mind-bogglingly stupis jailhouse interview...all points to him having more than a few screws loose.

An insanity defense makes perfect sense for Joe.

Frankly, I consider an insanity plea by Joe equivalent to a guilty plea.

And if that happens...Harlow is toast.

jim said...

...oh and Mark/Trent/Joe's multiple personalities, lets not forget those.

You know what? If I were a juror on Joe's trial, and he plead insanity...depending on how PA insanity laws are drifted (ie, liberal vs conservative)...AND based on everything we know of Joe...I may well find Joe Kerekes not guilty...

...by reason of insanity!

I'd need to take a closer look at PA insanity definitions to make sure, but, at this point...NO I cannot rule it out.

Anonymous said...

dewayne,
Please don't forget that Bryan Kocis is "trackable online" but ONLY if you have that special chip.

I love that one! :)

Unknown said...

Congrats, Jim! Just think, one more post from you and that will equal the lie count total from this past weekend from....well, you know.

Rob said...

VJ--

Is that chip anything like that metal plate in his head?

Anonymous said...

rob,
It is the special "tpm" chip.
If Kents metal plate is configured similarly - we can track them both- he and Bryan online-
like a fedex package- what cool technology.

Rob said...

VJ--

That technology sounds like an element in one of the episodes of of Jody Wheeler's science fiction thrillers.

Rob said...

VJ--

Is that chip readable by UPC only, requiring scanning by an infrared wand or gun.

jim said...

More evidence that there is a mental problem with Joe...this from today's Times Leader:

"Even if there was a conflict, Kerekes would waive it and clear the way for Fannick to stay on board, Fannick said.

But the prosecutors claim a judge “has an independent obligation … to ensure such waivers are valid.”"

See that?

Prosecutors are no doubt restrained by the current gag order from openly discussing Joe's sanity issues, but what with "...to ensure such waivers are valid" I think it's obvious now what they concerned about here.

DeWayne In San Diego said...

yes Jim I do believe the Psyche profiles are in that Judges safe and they are very revealing!

INSANE!

Or

Faking Insanity!

We all know what the Defense Dr. will say and the rebuttal
DA's Dr. will say

Of course what have we all been observing for the last year?

INSANITY! LOL

Rob said...

Jim--

You aren't kidding about the difficulties of having a defendant declared mentally incompetent by reason of mental defect or thought process.

The criteria vary from state to state. For example, the criteria for insanity are not the same from state to state. New York has variations; New Jersey does not. New York will allow incompetency by reason of mental deficiency or thought process, but will not declare a defendant mentally insane if the defendant can distinguish between right from wrong. As you might have guessed, the situation is entirely less stringent in New Jersey.

Next, one of the steps in all jurisdictions requires the appointment by the Court of a Guardian ad litem--a person who acts on behalf of the incapcitated individual. That person works to acquire counsel, experts, and watches out for the incapacitated defendant's interests.

Another hurdle to being declared mentally deficient by reason of insanity is the Competency Hearing which is presided over by a judge. The defendant is nearly always in attendance and the judge will certainly question the petitioner his/herself as part of the ajudication. Obviously, expert testimony and psychological and psychiatric testing and reports of medical personnel who have observed the petitioner over time as well as close associates, friends, lovers/spouse, etc.

Interestingly, courts are loathe to rule for mental incompetency due to mental defect/insanity; medical/physilogical reasons being the great exception.

Presumably, the Courts are loathe to grant this status because of that fine line between madness and sanity. In a nutshell, judges are concerned with fakers getting a cakewalk with the possibility of being freed, even if the most gruesome, heinous crime was perpetrated after treatment and rehabiliation in a state mental facility.

Albert said...

If Joe or his parent's hired Fannick to represent Harlow, if the meetings between Joe and Fannick had been only to discuss such a hiring, then Fannick would know Joe would sign any waiver necessary and no conflict of interest would exist.
Fannick's argument that it would be entirely proper for Joes attorney's to cry conflict of interest is spot on. They have not done that yet.
Something tells me that if the psych evaluation had shown Joe or Harlow to be mentally unfit for trial, the judge would not just have locked the report in his safe. If either were determined to be in need of medical treatment, that treatment would need to be initiated upon discovery.

Anonymous said...

jim,
Excuse my being a bit off topic-
Can I ask you in your opinion, does this really look like it is ALL going to fall on Harlow and that Joe will be guest of the "looney bin"?

jim said...

This is actually right on topic.

Here's what I think is going on:

I think Joe is angling for an insanity defense. He needs Harlow to testify to that however. Hence the bribe of hiring Fannick as Harlow's attorney (not Joe's).

Fannick will then argue Harlow never expected Joe would barge thru the door, and do what he did. Poor Harlow...he was just there for a porn interview, and his unstable jealous husband waiting in the car just went berzerk!

So, under this contingency plan (which I'm sure they worked out in detail during the three months prior to their arrest...AND on three-way conference with Ree) Harlow gets an aquittal, while Joe spends some time in a mental facility.

We bloggers have to keep the pressure up, and make sure the TRUTH is heard and this does not happen.

Anonymous said...

I cannot believe these two [or three actually] had this in them to even attempt to pull something like this off - OMG -
You are right jim, they cannot get away with this.

Rob said...

Jim--

Since PC brought this up, you will recall that I have mentioned that a certain blogger had been in a 3-way conference call scenario involving Harlow, Joe and himself.

Furthermore, back in the early days of the Harlow/Joe jail blogs, Elm had lots of Renee and Angel of Truth tidbits he was spreading about. I don't believe in the coincidence of incidental association.

I am curious as to your take on all of this.

Are these people bucking for a mistrial if they cannot get the acquital and mental hospital outcome that is desired?

Anonymous said...

I am not sure if you knew jim,
Ree or Renee [she is called both] is the family friend of Harlows and Gladys, [Harlows mother], she was the one "in charge" of pulling in donations and all situations regarding Harlow and as she put it in her own words "I have to take care of the business, Harlow could not exactly ask his mother to run his porn business"

DeWayne In San Diego said...

Except Jim the video of Joe AND Harlow purchasing a gun and a knife at a pawn shop just before driving to PA kind of puts a damper on this strategy!

I mean does it look like Harlow was unwilling in the pawn shop video?
What were they buying the knife and gun for since they both had ample guns and knives?

Why this little shopping trip at the "Pawn and Gun"

This sounds like Meth thinking again

those two must have been Serious Tina's Bois!

Aquitals my Ass!

quickysrt said...

Could Harlow plead insanity by saying he says he was flying a thousand miles an hour on crystal meth and can't remember much of that entire week.

Joe has already spoken about staying back at the ranch, internet ip proof of whereabouts. Too late for insanity I think. He has made his bed in innocence and must now sleep in it.

Harlow too has backed himself into a corner sort of. They both claim compelling evidence that puts serious doubt in them being guilty. Trumped up charges Harlow called them.

So I think it is too late for a crackup mentally, they must play out their hand.

quickysrt said...

jim said...
Fannick will then argue Harlow never expected Joe would barge thru the door, and do what he did. Poor Harlow...he was just there for a porn interview, and his unstable jealous husband waiting in the car just went berzerk!

So, under this contingency plan (which I'm sure they worked out in detail during the three months prior to their arrest...
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There has to be some kind of story that works in the context of the beach blanket party recordings. For the three months prior to their arrest, H/J did not know about the San Diego bugs. We have assumed there are also other recordings that were made before the arrests. So it would have been hard to get a story straight without knowing what they got on you. The S/G tapes must have been shocking to learn of for H/J.

H&J can't just write a story out that fits the BK scene but little else. They got some splainin' da do.

Rob said...

Jim--

You have rated a lengthy and pithy response to your "The 385" from your nemesis El Mysterio.

I am noticing a rather foggy memory in that answer to your "The 385." Such gems as Harlow being with a john the night of murder well that author was not advancing that alibi. The Citizen's Voice stated that. Not exactly. CV was trying for an interview. Harlow was on the run in Florida.

His tap dance regarding the infamous PA winter camping trip alibi scenario is also a newspaper account. Presumably, Elm never "discussed" this matter with you, PC, and KM over the summer.

And now the revelation that Renee was engaged in the 3-way phone conferencing scheme to circumvent jailhouse security. I mentioned in late summer that a particular blogger was doing that and got banned from contacting the defendants.

Now, what exactly are the Harlowites up to? A mistrial?

jim said...

"I am curious as to your take on all of this."

I for one sincerely hope Elm was not dumb enough to involve himself in these 3-way call illegalities. Personally, I don't think he is that dumb, so I don't think he was. At least...I am very hopeful.

Despite out differences of opinion, I have always liked Elm.

There is another blogger out there of considerably less intelligence (and of considerably less charm) than Elm, who we do know talked to the boys in prison on numerous occasions. If he was involved...I sincerely hope those calls got recorded, and the law now pursues him to the fullest extent.

jim said...

"DewayneinSD said...
Except Jim the video of Joe AND Harlow purchasing a gun and a knife at a pawn shop just before driving to PA kind of puts a damper on this strategy!"

There's a lot of dampers on the strategy, DeW. Like the BBTs Quicky mentions. Which is good news for the truth.

I am sure Harlow and Joe spent many an hour in conference attempting to deal with these dampers.

jim said...

"Now, what exactly are the Harlowites up to?"

Probably scouring the phone book, looking for an attorney to replace Fannick.

quickysrt said...

jim said...
"Now, what exactly are the Harlowites up to?"

Probably scouring the phone book, looking for an attorney to replace Fannick.
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I wonder what kind of a budget they have to work with?