It's a bombshell piece of hearsay evidence, no doubt about it. However, upon reflection, my joy at learning of it is tempered by some rather serious concerns:
1) How did the Times Leader obtain this six-page letter from Harlow to Renee Martin? It does not seem to have been part of the filings, otherwise, it would have appeared on PC's blog. So...who leaked it?
2) Can the defense successfully object to any or all of this letter; say, on hearsay and/or other grounds? And if so...
3) Will the defense now move for a mistrial? Remember, the jury is NOT sequestered.
In other words...did someone's irresponsible and selfish desire for fame and personal self-aggrandizement just seriously jeopardize this entire court case?
I guess we shall soon find out.
Update: LOL!
64 comments:
That sounds like the letter PC was talking about earlier.
I don't assume a leak by a certain blogger.
Maybe PC already is in possession of the copies and can't post it for a reason ... or TL scooped him on this.
You are right, we shall soon know.
Oh I am certain it was not PC who leaked it to the Times Leader. He would never be so irresponsible, of that I'm sure we are all in agreement.
No, it was obviously someone else.
Oh no, I did not suggest PC leaked something.
I think I know who you are talking about :-)
You know, on even further reflection...
Someone who risks a mistrial by leaking evidence that would have come out in a matter of days anyways...probably wants a mistrial to occur.
Renee Martin
She is a Double Agent because she got caught she acts like she has seen the light and fully cooperated with the DA
Bullshit
She is an agent provocateur and has been since day one.
she wants Harlow to get off cause she believes Sean "Peter Pan" duped Harlow into murdering Bryan.
The only one she doesn't care for is Joe
What will be interesting is PPO's reaction.
especially if he launches an investigation into this "leak"
http://dewayneinsd.blogspot.com/2006/07/statement-on-renee-martin.html
"What will be interesting is PPO's reaction.
especially if he launches an investigation into this "leak""
You know, given how much evidence has been presented already, is Renee really necessary?
Assuming the case survives a mistrial motion...perhaps Melnick should consider doing without her (even if it means giving up the 3-way calls, and this letter).
This would have the added benefit of shortening the trial to a probably already weary jury.
Then revoking Renee's immunity deal.
And then prosecuting her for her role in the 3-way calls (Obstruction of Justice).
Jim stripped to its core they dont need any of it.
They can prove Harlow contacted Bryan as Danny Moilen, bought the knife, gun and throw away cell (intent)
He arrived at Bryans' Bryan confirms his model apt has arrived. (Harlow placed at the scene)
8:35 fire and dead Bryan
That is what you call an Open and shut circumstantial case.
The tapes are gravy
the jailhouse convos pile on
the letter just seals the deal
(our certainty he is the killer)
we dont need any of it
you prove Harlow made his apt
Then You prove Harlow killed Bryan
No question about it.
What am I missing? What is so damning about the contents of this letter that you say it might cause a mistrial? I don't see it at all. At the very worst it seems to be Harlow trying to manipulate his public image. Please explain.
Good Lord, with all of the damning evidence already heard by the jury, I can't imagine something as innocuous as this having any impact on them whatsoever. And they are instructed every day not to read about the case (I presume), so any juror who says he read it would probably be dismissed anyway.
I hope you're right, Will.
Problem is, the letter is a big deal. It goes right to the heart of the defense case...that Harlow was uninvolved, manipulated.
In this letter, however, it's HARLOW who is calling the shots. He's even dictating what suits Joe should wear!
The jury is supposed to avoid the news, but you know how it is. A TV is on, or, they pass a newspaper stand or machine...if you notice, this a blaring Page One headline.
And we've already lost one alternate.
So yeah, I hope you're right...but frankly, this whole thing sticks to high heaven.
Intent Will it shows intent to influence the jury from an assumption by Harlow that he is "guilty as sin" you notice he says nothing about how do I PROVE my innocence.
Its all about spin and lies to "fool" the jury.
VERY VERY damaging to the defense because Harlow has implemented most of whats in the letter.
"brynawel said...
That sounds like the letter PC was talking about earlier.
I don't assume a leak by a certain blogger.
Maybe PC already is in possession of the copies and can't post it for a reason ... or TL scooped him on this."
Oh I've known about the letter for a while now... just wanted another source to mention it's contents first... that way I wouldn't look like the bad guy. But now that it's 'out', I'll try to post it in it's entirety later today.
"Its all about spin and lies to 'fool' the jury."
That's one way to read it, I suppose. But most murder defendants try and clean themselves up for juries, and present the most favorable image to them and the public at large. I still don't think it's a very big deal.
If you notice though, this wasn't about cleaning oneself up for the jury. It was way before the trial, and what Renee and Harlow were discussing was a wide-ranging campaign of propaganda and deceit calculated to get Harlow off.
Leaking phony stories, for example, about a $1 million dollar movie, to make the motive seem ridiculous. If you recall, Elm made much hay out of this one.
Now, here we have another calculated leak, just as outlined in the playbook...although the target audience here is PPO, it would seem.
I hope PPO doesn't fall for it. Call douchebag Edward Lewis in and ask him who fed him the story. If he pleads protection of journalistic sources, just boot him and the Times Leader out of the courtroom for the duration.
"Call douchebag Edward Lewis..."
unprovoked name calling like this leads to flame wars.
as far as I know Ed Lewis does not post on the blogs.
is Ed the next 'target' for certain bloggers?
as for evidence being leaked. how does anyone know it was done by Renee?
are all letters sent to and sent from jail checked before going in the mail? meaning was letter intercepted and copied and given to the DA by the jail?
if so, others had access to leak it. could explain why Ed Lewis got it.
no record anywhere saying Renee and Ed know each other. who knows. i sure as hell dont.
am just saying...
While I agree 100% Ed Lewis is simply doing his job, and is not to blame...
"as for evidence being leaked. how does anyone know it was done by Renee?"
...oh, C'MON! :-)
By "jury" at this early date, some time before trial, I meant jury pool. I'm sure part of the motive was the "defense fund" as well. There are people who get paid a lot of money by wealthy clients to "spin" defendants' public images before trial. O.J. Simpson hired one, that blond chick, forget her name, and she spoke very openly and candidly about her job. Since Harlow couldn't afford someone like her, he was making an attempt to do it himself.
The public is aware of these kinds of tactics, and by and large isn't fooled by them. It's all just part of high-profile cases in the media-saturated culture we live in.
I agree that it shouldn't have been leaked, but in the end I predict no harm, no foul.
"I agree that it shouldn't have been leaked, but in the end I predict no harm, no foul."
Like I said, I hope you're right.
BB=DK
Ed Lewis is a working journalist and hardly a douchebag.
Should he have written about this "letter" now? Interesting editorial decision not resting with a mere reporter like Lewis.
We had an interesting discussion at PC's yesterday regarding the Wicked Bitch of the West.
Frankly, the woman is a liar who attempted and is still set on perverting justice. A certain individual can defend the indefensible regarding her, but I believe in pointing out a most serious fault and that is her underhanded, on-going, attempts at manipulating Sean and Grant into a jail cell.
Judge Olszewski should give Renee Martin her appointment with Destiny sooner rather than later.
"...oh, C'MON! :-)"
Jim, I am looking at other options is all. On this I make no accusations.
So let me say what I am thinking right now.
Is it possible Renee sent copy to Elm? By Elm's own admission he sought out many players and got himself deeply involved with them, it is well documented.
(Elm)I use this as an example(not an accusation). It COULD be something this simple, then again it might not.
Right now I am keeping an open mind.
Either way, the leak is NOT a good thing.
Elm should come clean and report every interaction he has had with these people.
Why BB that didn't take long. All that is missing is Renee for her spin that has no bearing, even remotely, to the fact of this letter.
I do agree with you that Ed Lewis is working this story in all of its facets like his profession requires.
I think if Elm or any other person with a blog had a copy and wanted to make it public, he'd simply post it on his blog. So I'd have to say no to that theory, BB.
Brent Corrigan: "It's Wide Open from Here"
BB why bring Elm in at all? He is not over here leaving comments.
In fact, one can read your remarks some 3 or 4 as a needless provocation.
Blog readers already know he was in communication with Martin, PC, and you. We could take your premise and extend that to include you as an instigator. Hardly fair is it?
That leads to a question of personal curiosity--you been south of Mason-Dixon?
Elm has claimed he has many documents and information he has not shared.
I'm only saying :)
Ha, yeah I saw that Will! :-)
GH got anything useful to say other than speculating my identity?
I mean really, how many people have you accused me of being?
ALL of you need to face the FACT that my identity will NEVER be made public.
You all say how unimportant BB is, yet you continue with the BB shit.
Most agree how ridiculous these speculations are - all have been proven wrong to date.
You have no idea how much I laugh at those who say they know who I am.
"oh BB is so and so coz so and so say so"
OK :)
Yeah, as covered EXTENSIVELY in another thread, the identity game gets old fast. At least for me, anyways.
So, moving on...
"BB why bring Elm in at all? He is not over here leaving comments."
Rob why (did you) bring Robert Wagner in at all? He is not over here (or anywhere) leaving comments.
That caused many problems for Sean and Grant.
See how that works?
Just leave it out Rob, admit how wrong you were and move on.
Want me to start speculating who GH is?
Did not think so. So cut it out.
Jim you say you want to avoid shit on your blog.
The shit ALWAYS begins with a post like GH's.
This time I held back - only cause I do not care.
Just pointing it out to you. Thats the way it has ALWAYS been.
It is over folks. LC has it under control.
BB not to burst your bubble but I have mentioned you in this thread, Renee Martin,PC, Elm, and Ed Lewis, indirectly I touched on Sean and Grant.
Please point out in any remark in this thread where I have menitoned anyone else.
Rob, stop being picky. Yes, you brought up many names in this thread. I mentioned one more.
Your point?
Rob, my contact with Elm consisted of a few emails, nothing more, nothing less.
Care to tell us the scope of your contact with Elm and other bloggers?
Exactly where in this thread?
You can't find "that reference" in this thread of Jim's because it does not exist.
New Update to TM7...
Want me to start speculating who GH is?
Hey, Willy, everybody who has the proper clearance and the need to know knows exactly who GH is.
Wow I am the star of this blog today thanks to BB. Wow I am being accused of leaking a letter that I did not even know existed.
I guess PC was wrong when he said that I did not matter in all of this because I am getting blamed for this bullshit.
It appears that I must be relevant if I am getting blamed for things that I did not do.
Here is the deal BB blames me so that he can help Renee save face. Next PC will do a post about how I got the letter from Renee.
Then all will be fine in blog land. I guess the fact that I don't give a fuck about this case anymore is a big issue for some.
The fact that I believe that all the little porn bitches were involved in the murder of Bryan Kocis is causing some a little gas.
So now they have to blame me for trying to cause a mistrial? From what I have seen of the letter in the papers I don't think it will cause a mistrial.
The one thing it does prove is that Harlow was not all in love with Sean as some are want to believe.
BB until you get your facts straight which will be a cold day in hell my advise to you is to not let PC and Renee make you look like a bigger idiot than you already are.
"elmysterio said...
Next PC will do a post about how I got the letter from Renee."
Actually you did... just like Renee sent a copy to Damon... and don't worry, you still have no significance to this trial. :)
Renee sent a letter to Damon?
elm get over yourself, i said i used u as an example, and said it could be a possibility.
like me and all us other bloggers were are so UNIMPORTANT to this case.
but since then i got confirmation YOU DID get a copy of the letter.
as for getting FACTS straight, you might want to try that.
if you do not care - dont blog about it. till that happens, you clearly do care.
Elm got a copy too, as I said could have happened.
Shows how much Elm wants to be involved in this saga.
"...a letter that I did not even know existed."
why do you continue to lie?
oh and elm i'd never take your advice. for you to think i would tells me just how delusional you are.
"jim said...
Renee sent a letter to Damon?"
Yep... the same copy Elm recieved... she thought Harlow and Joe were innocent at the time... so she tried to apply the 'news' as best she could.
Obviously she's since seen the 'light'... and is now a witness for the prosecution.
Tomorrow's testimony should be quite interesting.
Unbelievable Kent never posted it, then claimed a "scoop," in accordance with his nature.
Are you sure about this?
hey jim, you still fell sure Renee leaked the letter to the press?
Until a better theory comes up, yes.
PC, are you aware of Renee's criminal background history?
I haven't posted it, solely due to the fact that I refuse to do anything that might aid the Harlow defense (Roecker's not paying me enough for me to do that) but suffice to say, she has done things that would make her word...untrustworthy. By ANY objective standard!
"jim said...
Until a better theory comes up, yes.
PC, are you aware of Renee's criminal background history?"
Well aware... though it would seem to be more of a financial issue, and not 'criminal'.
Jim Elm says:
"So now they have to blame me for trying to cause a mistrial? From what I have seen of the letter in the papers I don't think it will cause a mistrial.
The one thing it does prove is that Harlow was not all in love with Sean as some are want to believe."
Elm would only know that if he had read the letter. no mention of Sean by Ed.
"...and not 'criminal'."
Well, then I guess you're not aware.
"PC, are you aware of Renee's criminal background history?"
Jim that is a horrid unfair thing to say in open be it true or not.
Just saw PC's comment. PLEASE leave it be, we've been through enough madness with this fucking murder.
"jim said...
"...and not 'criminal'."
Well, then I guess you're not aware."
Do share... I'm sure we'd all like to know.
" BB said...
"PC, are you aware of Renee's criminal background history?"
Jim that is a horrid unfair thing to say in open be it true or not."
Well, if the defense does what defense lawyers are supposed to do, they may be doing the unfair and horrid tomorrow.
It's all a matter of public record. PC did a post Harlow and Joe's largely clean record from the same jurisdiction.
This is no different, except I actually found lots of stuff.
By all means Jim... show us the criminal evidence.
Jim,
Let it come out in court if it is true is what I really wanted to say, you said it for me :)
I really did not want Renee to get beaten up on the blogs over your comment.
You know it will happen. Its not nice and stirs the pot. I thought you were neutral with all bloggers and did not fan any flames.
Actually PC is right, you made the accusation, time to back it up.
Well, OK...
Proof of what I said in my comment. All a plan to make it look like I want to cause a mistrial.
The truth is I think Sean, Grant, Joe, Harlow and Robert Wagner are all guilty of this murder.
I never recieved any letter from Renee. PC is just pissed off because I called him a cut and paste artist. BB is just BB a troll who will do anything to make it look like (s)he knows something.
The only thing I ever got from Renee was a bad case of gas and a headache.
jim-
Please tell me you are not taking direction from "bb"
I am vomiting- cannot help it.
No offense meant, but what makes anyone think this letter was necessarily leaked? Isn't it possible all sides knew this letter was being "revealed"? I've seen no reports of it causing any blips in the precedings today.
What a display of Pompous Pretentious Self-importance by you bloggers you think your journalists?
Please
The letter was released by a real reporter,a man who has years of experience.
A Newspaper printed the story not a self serving blogger.
You all sound like petulant children.
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