Monday, December 8, 2008

Off To Plea We Go

See PC's blog for more late breaking updates on Joe Kerekes plea.

In the meantime, lets banter!



Update: Joe gets life w/o parole. Also significant (to me) is that Joe had to write out a "guilty plea colloquy" and give statements to prosecutors detailing the crime. And one of those details was the motive:

"Kerekes told prosecutors he and Cuadra viewed Kocis, a rival producer of gay pornographer, as an "impedement to the expansion of their pornography business," Melnick said."

That "porn rivalry" motive so many people just did not want to believe is now on record and official. And thus irrefutable.

Update 2: WNEP video. Joe walks into court to get his life sentence...

(embedded video removed, as I can't disable the autoplay and thus it'll become annoying...see via the link above)

Update 3: Elsewhere in the Kocisphere, the currents of unhinged denial remain strong. The new battle cry: "Stay alive, Harlow and Joe. Those guilty pleas should get voided aaaaany day now!"

Update 4: Huh, when did this blog go down? Must have been VERY recently, as a new post was there as late as November 27. Interesting timing for a total deletion, to say the least.

Update 5: When it rains, it pours - just as Joe was wrapping things up in Luzerne County, a Marine F/A 18 Hornet jet crashes into a San Diego residential neighborhood, a little over two kilometers from Brent and Grant's house.


Update 6: More crime revelations from Joe's plea - Harlow did the actual killing, and the arson. Hmmm. Given that Joe pleaded to pretty much the maximum sentence one can plead for, AND will not be required to testify...is there any reason for Joe to be lying about this?

Update 7: More revelations; According to Joe, Harlow did practically everything it seems. Joe even stayed at the hotel during the murder, he says (although he did admit he knew Harlow was busy murdering Kocis while he waited).

Italics are mine below:

Melnick said Kerekes told them Cuadra decided to “eliminate” Kocis, purchased a .38-caliber gun and knife from a Virginia Beach pawn shop and rented an SUV to drive to Pennsylvania. Melnick said Kerekes and Cuadra traveled together and Kerekes said he paid cash for a room at the Fox Hill Inn because the motel had no security or surveillance. They paid for the room in cash so they could not be tracked.

Melnick said Kerekes told them the two did surveillance on the Kocis home prior to the homicide, and that Kerekes participated in e-mail correspondence sent to Kocis before his death. Kerekes told attorneys he was aware Cuadra intended to kill Kocis, and the lighter fluid and lighters used to set the blaze were purchased at Wal-Mart.

Kerekes said he stayed at the motel while Cuadra went to the Kocis home. When Cuadra returned, he said [Cuadra] had murdered Kocis and [Cuadra] set the home ablaze, according to Kerekes. Prosecutors said Kocis’ throat was slashed to the point his death was ruled homicide by decapitation.

Kerekes told attorneys Cuadra returned with several items belonging to Kocis, including a Rolex watch, camcorders, tapes, computers and Kocis’ cell phone. They discarded the murder weapon and some of Kocis’ belongings.

So to recap all the Harlow (only) associated verbs in this crime: Harlow decided (!), purchased, rented, went, murdered, set ablaze, (stole), and returned. All by himself!

Joe seems to have been just a sidekick, there for occasional minor tasks and moral support. Which is not to say that what relatively little he does admit to isn't felony murder; it is.

"Decided" is the verb which really raises my eyebrow right now. If what Joe says now is true, then it's clear who wore the pants in that relationship.

Update 8: More WNEP video.

Update 9: A bit more on Harlow's proposed new private attorney, Joseph R. D'Andrea, first reported over on PC's blog. Besides his recent tax and ethics problems, his perhaps best known and most interesting (to me) legal work involved his 1991 defense of a sticky-fingered porcelain museum curator.

Interesting, in that he relied on a diminished capacity/demonic possession argument in support of a lighter sentence for his client (Professor Feller):

"Professor Feller's lawyer, Joseph R. D'Andrea, argued in an opposing sentencing memorandum that his client had a diminished capacity to tell right from wrong. To buttress his argument, he attached a letter from Dr. Jorge A. Pereira-Ogan, a professor of psychiatry at Thomas Jefferson University Medical College in Philadelphia, who interviewed Professor Feller over a period of three months.

Dr. Pereira-Ogan concluded that Professor Feller suffered from "an appalling poverty of interpersonal relationships" and therefore found in what he stole "surrogate objects to love, admire and take care of." He said the fact that Professor Feller painstakingly restored some of the pieces he stole, only rarely sold them and never took a tax deduction for his gifts lent weight to this analysis.

Professor Feller himself said in the interview that his crimes were so unlike every other aspect of his life that although not superstitious he could not exclude the possibility of demonic possession."


47 comments:

will g said...

That is a very hot picture of Joe. But they should replace it now with one of him eating crow.

brynawel said...

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jim said...

LOL!!!!!!!

jim said...

BTW, I have a new post on my Kent Trial site, so just send all posts rubbing Kent's face in it over there. Seems like the topically tidy way go...thanks!

will g said...

". . .we have to admit that a guilty plea from Kerekes probably stands a better chance of being upheld (when The Luzerne County DA’s Office goes down for not recusing itself from the Bryan Kocis Investigation inter, alia) than if THOSE RETARDS had gone to trial and obtained a guilty verdict against Kerekes."

Caps on "THOSE RETARDS" are courtesy of Peter E., the Bitchless Blog.

Thanks for that update Jim, I needed a bit of satirical prose just about now. I guess this will be the new chant from Elm and Peter, "VOID! VOID!" God bless 'em.

will g said...

Jim, what blog "went down"? All the link says is the blog has been removed.

jim said...

"sonsofsam-gluttony.blogspot.com"

Anonymous said...

First thought-
Joe and Harlow should be grateful their fates do not rely upon the wisdom of Peter 4Everhard and Maid Marion of "The Bitchless Blog"

will g said...

Oh no!!!

will g said...

Did BB sabotage that plane?:)

DeWayne In San Diego said...

Jim if you want to embed the video WITHOUT Auto play I made the change and posted here

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dfvm2s75_24cfjbbzgc&hl=en

They use VERY Sloppy code!

will g said...

Joe may have no reason to lie about Harlow now, as you said, but I think he was certainly lying by omission, painting Harlow as the perpetrator and he just kind of happened to be there, and was forced to clean up Harlow's mess. I'm surprised they allowed him to minimize his role in the planning and execution of the murder like that, on the record. But maybe that was part of the deal, who knows.

DeWayne In San Diego said...

I don't know Will I think Joe may be telling the truth he is a coward, he set Harlow up for this, while making some attempts to give himself what he perceived to be an out.

There has been persistent speculation almost from the beginning that Harlow did the actual killing.

And Jim I think you were the first to state that theory.

quickysrt said...

I think Harlow should go to trial and explain his mental impairment due to sexual abuse at home, abusive relation with a brainwashing sociopath, drugs being pushed at him, and ideas planted in his head.

He was off his rocker, and Joe kept at him to do that deed.

If Charles Manson and family can be eligible for parole every four years, then Harlow can be out in 10 or 12 for "doing in" a horrible child molester right?

Don't give up Harlow, you can be redeemed and rehabilitated. The state got Joe for eternity and one day more, you can have freedom as a relatively young man in 10 to 15.

jim said...

I think at least one other theorized Harlow as the knife-man before I did (PC?).

It does make sense, when you consider a few key details from the CCTs and BBTs. Like how Harlow tells Sean and Grant at the Crab Catcher he'll reveal how the murder went down, and answer questions, on the beach the next day. And Joe is a bit surprised! But does not object.

Then on the beach, Harlow does indeed do almost all the talking, a complete role reversal from the Crab Catcher the night before. It's Harlow who says he now has trouble sleeping. Harlow who says he felt like got revenge. Joe contributes a few details which shows he was in the house, but is otherwise mute.

Getting Joe to plead to life rather than Harlow was a win for the prosection I think. It'll be much easier to make a first degree case vs. Harlow.

GorgeousBoys said...

I would think that Harlow will now reconsider any plea offer that may have been previously offered in light of Joe's plea today. This would ensure him of a life sentence; get him on to prison and out of the lockdown of the county jail lifestyle. In prison he can begin to live a life of sorts.

If Harlow doesn't take such a deal a trial will be conducted and then the state will call Joe as a witness and he will have to testify as he will no longer have a 5th amendment claim. If he refuses to testify he will be in contempt and if he provides false testimony he will be subjected to perjury.

His statement that he will not testify against Harlow is Joe speaking and certainly not an order of the court. I'm thinking he said this in attempts to divert any attention that he was "selling" Harlow out. The statement will probably be to his benefit in dealing with fellow inmates who may harass or harm him for being a state witness. I would also imagine he feels terrible for Harlow and ashamed ... but what can he do? It's truly every man for himself in this mess he finds himself in.

It would be interesting to see Joe's written plea agreement and should be a matter of record. I suspect the blog here will post such if and when it becomes available.

It would be my opinion that we shall see Harlow's change of plea anytime soon. While I find it difficult to believe a jury would return a death penalty sentence in light of his age and background it would be needless to "crank" a jury, sit through a trial attempting to claim innocence and put his boyfriend through the shame and humiliation of testifying against him.

Short of an insanity defense it just doesn’t seem Harlow has much advantage in holding out.

quickysrt said...

DeWayne In San Diego said... There has been persistent speculation almost from the beginning that Harlow did the actual killing.

And Jim I think you were the first to state that theory.
----

Actually it was me who stated the theory first that Harlow likely did it, I stated (here anyway) (and at PC's) felt that Harlow even looked evil in the pictures (remember I said at the arraignment video Harlow looked scary), and would be considered as guilty as Joe. Everyone else felt Harlow had the "doe" eyes, and would be convincing as the more innocent one.

Everyone felt Joe did this and Harlow tagged along. And it was me that said otherwise, and that the investigators thought of both of them equally involved.

I made up an imaginary scene where Joe testifies against Harlow calling him "turning into a vicious queen" while showing pictures from Harlow's own site. Which would be pretty convincing if actually allowed.

Everyone else was sure Joe (with his bad rep) was the real doer of action here.

Not that it makes much difference here if and when Harlow gets the chair at the end of the line.

jim said...

"If Harlow doesn't take such a deal a trial will be conducted and then the state will call Joe as a witness and he will have to testify as he will no longer have a 5th amendment claim. If he refuses to testify he will be in contempt and if he provides false testimony he will be subjected to perjury."

This is a very excellent point.

Although I still maintain it would be a bad idea for the prosecution to call Joe. Just because they can, doesn't mean they should.

will g said...

As a latecomer to all of this, I for one thought it was common knowledge or at least the consensus that Harlow did the stabbing. That seemed clear to me for the BBT's, I don't think they leave very much doubt about that.

However, I believe Joe was the driving force behind the murder from day one. That's why I objected to him being allowed to pin the whole thing on Harlow in the court record today.

will g said...

As for Joe being charged with contempt for not testifying, what are they going to do? Add another year to his sentence??

jim said...

I think alot of people assumed when Harlow referred to "my dude" on the BBTs, he was talking about Joe.

Then there was the image factor. People tended to believe the rough and scruffy Joe as a murderer, much more readily than cuddly-cute doe-eyed 'lil Harlow.

will g said...

I thought the "my dude went a little crazy" line of Harlow's was from that day-after phone call to Brent? On the BBT's he just talks about how good it felt to "get revenge" and how Kocis "didn't see it coming."

DeWayne In San Diego said...

Harlow has made it clear he is going to trial, he rejected the plea deal Sunday night, I seriously doubt he will reconsider. Look at it from his point of view. What would you rather have the Death Penalty or Life with out parole? He wanted a deal that allowed the possibility of parole.

That will not happen.

I fully expect the trial to commence in January.

Quikysrt yes you were one of the first to implicate Harlow as the actual killer.

Not the only one,,I had a comment left by(I assume)one of the escorts on my blog right after the arrest in May 2007. This escort described a violent and threatening Joe Kerekes, and Harlow portrayed as a sympathetic character ,protecting the other escorts from the ogre Joe.

This is the person who described overhearing Joe and Harlow fighting but he was emphatic that Harlow did the killing to "get Joe off his back"

I doubt the jury will buy this angle even if its true.(battered spouse,Stockholm syndrome,etc)

Joe Kerekes planned and instigated the murder of Bryan Kocis.
AND Joe was in that House!

Harlow should have taken "ole Blue" and just driven off in January 2007.

It may have meant starting life over from scratch

But at least he would have had a life!

Anonymous said...

Quickyrst said,
"actually it was me who stated the theory"

I remember that distinctly-
You threw me off, as I was one of the "doe eyed Harlow" ones at the time.
People then started to inquire about the blogger name you chose, as it was Harlows-
if I am not mistaken.

jim said...

I beginning to suspect Harlow did something to Joe recently behind the scenes to piss Joe off. Hence this plea story, shoveling all this blame on Harlow.

Don't get me wrong: Harlow is guilty. Just not this guilty.

And I think Joe would be happy to testify for the prosecution...except Melnick told him his witness services would not be needed. LOL!

Joe then ad libbed it in the courthouse corridor, making it sound like *he* is the one refusing to testify. That's my theory right now. FWIW.

Anonymous said...

I agree jim,
I think Joe only said he would not testify against Harlow [loudly, I am sure] to save his own face-
if that is even possible.

quickysrt said...

Oh the blogger name chosen, it was just a cool name I came across in Harlow forums, and snatched it up. Of course I have no real insider info. I thoght it was funny. Harlow's people might not have.

See the reason I thought Harlow as the lead role is because everyone was telling Harlow to ditch the BS and do not "stand by your man" because he is not looking out for you as we can tell from his outburts. Joe was fingering Harlow early on, yet Harlow would not fight back.

The reason Harlow could not rat out Joe and get it over with is because of who actually did the worst of the deed.

Sure Joe came around and it was crazy, etc. But that was after "he never saw it coming".

So before the beach blanket party tapes surfaced in public, Harlow was already buckeled down with Joe. Not the sign of someone who could never hurt anyone, just not the type. He could not rat out Joe, because of the real story, and true roles. I sensed this.

The mean pictures of Harlow did not do anything to convince me of innocense. Harlow liked to give a fuck you middle finger in pictures. And this was in direct contradiction to what his family and tricks were saying which was that he was the sweetest guy, whuld help you anytime if you needed it.

BB said...

"I beginning to suspect Harlow did something to Joe recently behind the scenes to piss Joe off. Hence this plea story, shoveling all this blame on Harlow."

joe recently discovered that sean lockhart and harlow had an online affair and that they made future plans together that did NOT include joe or the cobrakiller. proof of this WAS provided to joe.

jim said...

LOL, I hope they used online protection during their online intercourse!

Lets talk about realistic reasons Joe might be disgruntled, shall we?

Number one in my mind is, Harlow has hogged all the attention here. And Joe felt rather put out. And finally could not take it anymore.

I mean, look at the whole post-arrest circus from Joe's point of view.

Harlow sets up a legal defense fund. It gets a fair amount of attention. Joe does the same. His got far less in non-family donations, I'll wager.

Jason Ridge lauches a major effort to "Free Harlow Cuadra." No mention of Joe. Joe sees this, sits in his cell, and smoulders.

The same pattern with other Harlowites, you notice. Jakester and Preacher George were slavishly pro-Harlow, but when you asked them about Joe...they EXPLICITLY said on the record their support did not extend to Joe. Elm was about the only one out there who gave Joe a fair shake, and that was probably due to their pre-arrest friendship they struck up.

The magazine articles...Out and Rolling Stone portrays Joe as a tacky chinchilla coat wearing wannabe with a violent temper. Harlow got MUCH better press from both.

And then Here! comes along. Ah, now this is where Joe finally lost it.

Is Episode 6 called: "Everything You Wanted To Know About Joe Kerekes?" NO! It's called something slightly different than that, isn't it? :-)

I think Here! TV was the last straw for Joe. He took the plea when finally re-offered, and then during his statement-giving, made sure to screw Harlow over as best he could.

Like I said, if Melnick wanted him to testify, I'm sure Joe would be overjoyed to do so. But thats not gonna happen.

elmysterio said...

Since the beginning of all of this mess one thing has stood solid and it is that the center of all of this revolves around on person. That person is Sean Lockhart.

For some stupid reason Joe says that Harlow killed Bryan with the misguided idea that they could work with Sean.

Bryan Kocis is dead because he would not let Sean go. He tried everything possible to get Sean back in his clutches.

Something that Bryan said or did to those who are accused of killing him is what caused his death.

For a man who molested boys and got away with it and continued to go after one of his victims is not all that wise but Bryan did just that.

For Joe to take a plea deal is in my opinion wrong. If the truth is what he told the court then he might have gotten lighter sentence from a jury.

As far as Harlow goes I really do not know what to think based on the evidence and all of his statements after the fact if he wants to go to trial that is his right.

I think that none of this should have ever happened if the Luzerne County Court system had done what it was supposed to do when Bryan was arrested the first time.

He should have been a registered sex offender and he would not have been allowed to run Cobra Video.

Sean Lockhart would never have got envolved with Bryan and Joe would not be serving a life sentence and Harlow would not be in Jail on murder charges and Bryan would most likely still be alive.

That is just my opinion on all of this. Life sucks and then you die pity that is.

jim said...

"For some stupid reason Joe says that Harlow killed Bryan with the misguided idea that they could work with Sean."

Actually, the motive Joe officially gave was broader than you describe - that they saw Cobra as a business rival. No mention of Sean in that statement whatsoever.

That suggests to me the possibility to me that they were interested, long term, in other Cobra Boys besides Sean.

This would explain why they stole the 2257s. They wanted real names, phone numbers and home addresses of those now available Cobra models. Were it not for all those pesky initial murder accusations (for example, those made by a certain Jason Curious commenteer by the name of JIM), I'm sure the plan was to begin cold calling those now unemployed models, offering them work.

In other words, I'll wager Sean was less central to all this than you make him out to be.

"Something that Bryan said or did to those who are accused of killing him is what caused his death."

Well, according to Harlow Bryan made a pass at him in the living room, and that evoked memory of Harlow's prior molestation...but honestly, that was not really the cause. The murder was set in motion long before that...long before "Danny" first made contact with Bryan.

"For Joe to take a plea deal is in my opinion wrong. If the truth is what he told the court then he might have gotten lighter sentence from a jury."

Not really. His statements describe him as guilty of 2nd degree murder. And neither the jury or even the judge has any discretion here...it a mandatory minimum of life w/o parole.

"I think that none of this should have ever happened if the Luzerne County Court system had done what it was supposed to do when Bryan was arrested the first time."

IMO, it's not so much any court system atfault, but rather, Pennsylvania law.

Pennsylvania criminal law has this wimpy "Corruption of Minors" charge, which oh-so-conveniently does not call for Megan's Law registration. So naturally, the Holy Grail of ever accused sex criminal in the Keystone State is to get his (or her) charges pled down to Corruption of Minors.

Kocis successfully gamed the system in Luzerne County (the non-cooperative 15 y/o was a major help to him here)...but quite frankly, he could have easily gamed the system in ANY county in Pennsylvania.

elmysterio said...

Jim you might want to read the court docket on Kocis. Looks to me like there was a mistake made when he plead guilty to filming that boy. Somehow the charges were changed by Judge Conahan but there is no reason as to the why.

The Docket number is

Cp-40-CR-0002891-2001 and you can get the info and a copy at this link
http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/CP.aspx

As far as the murder of Bryan goes it was stupid that it happened and
whatever Joe said as to the why I really don't think it is all together the truth.

He said what he needed to say to get a life sentence and not a needle. Joe is a big cry baby and he always has been.

As far as Harlow doing the deed well we will just have to wait and see what transpires in the court room.

I choose not to speculate on the outcome and the who did what and why as I have been told so many different versions by too many people as to what happened.

Since they wanted to take over the business that was Cobra I think Kentie would be a little pissed that he did not think of such a great plan himself, or maybe he did. And now he is going to write a book about it.

jim said...

What I've read indicates that Kocis pled to a Corruption of Minors charge. Somewhere along the line, however, a clerical error occured, and some greater charge (I forget which) got written in the paperwork. Conohan ordered the clerical error corrected.

That's the whole story. There is no great conspiracy here, just the grinding of the rusty wheels of your typical American judicial bureaucracy at work.

Kentie was supposed to inherit Cobra IIRC. There must have been some sort of snag during probate... :-)

jim said...

"As far as Harlow doing the deed well we will just have to wait and see what transpires in the court room."

This one's actually a no brainer. Harlow's lawyers are gonna say Joe did it all.

The decision. Planning. Emailing. The actual knifing even. All Joe!

It'll be what Joe just said, but with the roles completely reversed. And Harlow made to look like he was forced to take part in the relatively small roles he'll grudgingly admit to playing in all this.

This is OBVIOUSLY going to be Harlow's trial strategy now. Blame it all on Joe. Getting kicked out of boot camp and youth ministry for violence Joe. Joe is, you have to admit, now the perfect fall guy for Harlow.

So you can kinda see why Harlow said "no" to the plea. He does have a reasonably viable defense strategy now. Especially if he flashes those cute little doe eyes at the female (and perhaps male) members of the jury, sitting there in a dapper suit and tie.

Mark my words, this is what's gonna happen!

Now, the prosecution (wisely) will not call on Joe to testify against Harlow. Because as we know, Joe's mouth tends to be his own worst enemy.

But can Harlow call Joe to the stand? He CAN indeed...and I think he will!

PC said...

"It'll be what Joe just said, but with the roles completely reversed. And Harlow made to look like he was forced to take part in the relatively small roles he'll grudgingly admit to playing in all this."

Yep... even down to it was he (Harlow) that stayed at the Fox Ridge Inn while Kocis was being killed.

jim said...

Yeah...although if the BBTs get in, Harlow at Fox Ridge will be a tough sell.

Anonymous said...

"Kentie was supposed to inherit Cobra"

No, No, No!
Bryan is really NOT dead, remember?

He was taken by the U.S. Government and brought to the U.S. Virgin Islands [Strange place to take him but there was a reason for it].
He then underwent major plastic surgery - a face change, if you will.
Nobody knows it's him, but he's having a ball over there.
He gives pertinent intel to the U.S. officials as they need it and he is now the spitting image of Paul Barresi!

PC said...

"Yeah...although if the BBTs get in, Harlow at Fox Ridge will be a tough sell."

Oh I think the whole thing's going to be a tough sell, but I guess he figures it's worth a try.

PC said...

"Update 10: As to Harlow's other proposed new private attorney, James J. Walker, Esq., I can find nothing really earth-shattering about. However, as he seems to have been named after my favorite alcoholic beverage, I suspect I will have difficulty disliking him."

It's actually Paul J. Walker... my bad.

jim said...

D'oh!

will g said...

When I saw your Harlow update photo, for a second I thought I'd wandered onto V.J.'s favorite blog Perez Hilton by mistake.:)

I wouldn't be surprised if Harlow's family found D'Andrea by Googling "diminished capacity defense." But I see no indication in that Times article that his sentencing brief held any sway with the judge, so I'm not sure why they think it'll work this time.

quickysrt said...

jim said... This one's actually a no brainer. Harlow's lawyers are gonna say Joe did it all.

The decision. Planning. Emailing. The actual knifing even. All Joe!

It'll be what Joe just said, but with the roles completely reversed. And Harlow made to look like he was forced to take part in the relatively small roles he'll grudgingly admit to playing in all this.
----
But I thought we all came to the conclusion that even with Joe staying back at the ranch while Harlow went tricking at Bryan's house, Joe would be (is) as guilty knowing what was going down before and after.

So I see the strategy as Harlow rats out Joe as "being there" as director in this horrific scene, outside making sure that Harlow did the deed while Harlow was out of his mind. See Joe must have told Harlow that this would be the best revenge for abuse from the past, Harlow being out of his mind literally, and unable to sleep for days while strung out on many drugs, and believed Joe was looking out for the best. His man came around, told him change clothes, clean up and then get in the car while I "secure" the property. Harlow gets in the car and Joe sets the fire.

Harlow was there and did some of this, but was so whacked out of his mind by Joe and Joe's drugs, that he simply did not know right from wrong. And therefor needs a good 10 to 15 years of deep therapy for years of abuse, drugs, and being with this horrible internet scam artist/porn pimp that is evil Joe.

But to say Harlow did nothing and knew nothing is not even taking any responsibility for your actions, and then you are too far gone to even live.

Even if convicted, you must have given a reason for parole later. And whached out of your gawd damned mind is the best one.

I did none of it, Joe did it all, is asking for the chair if convicted. But this new attorney has experience with "whacked out" defenses.

Better play Harlow as a sweet little boy who grew confused with "bad everything" in his background, found Joe as a father figure (he never had), and was then driven to the depths of hell. Convinced by Joe to sell his body, and then finally his soul. He even created a fake age so that he could live as someone else. When he attacked Bryan, he was attacking sexual abusers in his mind. Joe had other motives, but Harlow simply wanted revenge.

It got so bad he could not sleep or function. This young man needs your help, and needs mental hospitalization. He needs what he was never given to begin with. And that is a real start in life.

As this is played out, some baby pictures of Harlow, and then a few Christmas pictures too are shown.

As long as Harlow does not play the "I found Jesus in the last 2 years" defense (which no longer works), then this is about as good as it can get.

Geoff Harvard said...

Here!TV can barely get into production with its hare-brained "documentary," so how is residuals from Here!TV episodes which are not on the air the source of funds for two private attorneys in a death penalty murder case? And why is this happening only when Joe has pleaded out under unfavorable terms? In whose interest other than Harlow's is it for Harlow to get other than the death penalty or else life without?

PC said...

" Geoff Harvard said...
Here!TV can barely get into production with its hare-brained "documentary," so how is residuals from Here!TV episodes which are not on the air the source of funds for two private attorneys in a death penalty murder case? And why is this happening only when Joe has pleaded out under unfavorable terms? In whose interest other than Harlow's is it for Harlow to get other than the death penalty or else life without?
"

Thet have nothing but good timing.

quickysrt said...

jim said... Actually, the motive Joe officially gave was broader than you describe - that they saw Cobra as a business rival. No mention of Sean in that statement whatsoever.

That suggests to me the possibility to me that they were interested, long term, in other Cobra Boys besides Sean.
---

Indeed, there were so many other ways they could have gotten Cobra models or even other better ones to work with. Harlow could have gotten some more better pictures taken of him. Some that make him look better than the amature 19 y/o, but more slick B/W shots of him looking like a model from Vogue for men, Abercombe, etc. And those pictures would be bait for young little twink "nobodys" to come along and have the hot action they always dreamt about and get paid for it.

After they get one more good model, then get more pictures taken, and snatch up some of those Cobra models with the slick new materials.

The money situation must have gotten really bad after the Vegas dinner. Clearly Harlow needed to kick Joe to the curb, basically drop him like a hot potato. Leave him with a nearly maxed out Mastercard + a $20 bill, a leased car, and forclosed on house, and get the hell away from him.

If only.....

I'm sure the "if only" thoughts went through Harlow's head a lot the first year in jail.

Anonymous said...

Quicky,
You should be a defense attorney,
that was good! :)

quickysrt said...

V.J. said...
Quicky,
You should be a defense attorney,
that was good! :)
----

Funny V.J. I was just rambing on there. :)